hello 5800

I bought a UK nokia 5800 on day of release. This blog is my ongoing user review.

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Sat Oct 2
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Foursquare on Nokia N8 (symbian^3) Nexus one (android 2.2.1) iPhone (iOS 4.2 beta) Noia 5800 (symbian^1) 


all running side by side on teh same wifi lan. - note though the iOS version crashes - the iPhone is running beta firmware, the N8 is also running pre-release firmware. Nexus one / 5800 have the latest OTA updates. 

all have slightly different interfaces but support the same feature set.
iOS/android versions appear to be a little quicker than the Nokia versions. I believe the nokia one is a web runtime app (ie embedded browser app) vs the android/iOS versions being native code.


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Tue Jul 27

mostlythis:

Exclusion is a mini game to support the nokia / tim kring ‘conspiracy for good’ ARG currently running. ( http://www.conspiracyforgood.com ) Along with several apps in the ovi store to support it, some are just for the events, others to follow the story, theres a hacking game called inclusion I haven’t tried yet. See them all here.

Though actually quite a high quality full game, in fact I would almost go as far as to say one of the best on the 5800.  It’ s probably more fun than the actual arg, but thats more the casual nature of the puzzler.

It’s a touch based game, simply ‘slice’ the ‘memes’ to clear the levels. SImilar to the sword play on Wii Sports Resort and Ninja Fruit on iPhone. But with a level based format.  Lots of little game play add-ons are introduced and it no doubt ties into the ARG storyline.  But of course the main thing is its FUN.

These mini games work well with in depth content like ARGS because they are easy to pick up, whereas args can, frankly, be a chore.  The mini game will spike interest in the main content and lead people to discover more. It’s also tying in nokia handsets to the games, which they are funding after all.

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Sat May 29

hurrah! heres comes v50 OTA

Just installing V50 via Over the Air, as I don’t have a windows PC I have to wait for the Other The Air updates. Just in time for a trip to ireland, where i use the 5800 as my main phone, and constantly use the awesome OVI maps navigation.

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Fri Apr 30

Nokia Go. OK so Nokia WomWorld contacted me about a challenge, I’ve had trial Nokia devices to review in the past, and sat in on Nokia product development focus groups - which i can’t talk about.  But I can talk about this, trouble is … it’s all shrouded in mystery. A package arrived at my desk while i was out and in it was a memory stick containing a personalised movie - which you can watch here.  All i know is there’s a hashtag #NokiaGo.


The sekreet challenge is due to start Saturday May 8th…..

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Sun Feb 21
OVI Maps FTW: I took my 5800 (and nexus one) on holiday to ireland, loaded up a local PAYG O2 sim card - I got 3.5G most places, Edge elsewhere.  Data was capped at 99 cents a day, perfect for short trips. I had google maps on the 5800, installed the v4 version of google to check out the buzz layer.
My nexus one was on a uk sim so I turned off 3G and data and left it as a regular phone (the battery lasted days like that!!) and I could get data when in wifi areas.
Unfortunately I hadn’t preloaded up the new maps for ireland. But they came in no problem once I had my 3G sim in, this would be an issue if you are roaming.  So offline only use wasn’t available for me, pre planning would of sorted that out. Coverage wise the OVI maps for Ireland are way better than google. Every little road (including some that are little more than tracks) are on there, correctly named.  Google maps had some wierd naming of areas, it seemed to be using ward names rather than villages, so thumbs down to google maps of Ireland.
The voice guidance had to be download, but was quick (I did this while on the road, my wife was driving). I tried surf dude, which was amusing but highly annoying after five minutes, so switched to uk female, and added street names support too. It’s a lot like the voice from that site that turns scripts into cartoons. So I kept expecting her to ask me if I wanted a Hannah Montana Screensaver.
This was a life saver, and is so much better than the one on my VW touran, which has 5 year old data and nothing outside of the main towns and trunk roads.  It kept up well lock wise and was spot on.
The only issue I had was it kept saying too many active data connections, OVI maps was the only app running so it wanted me to close the OVI maps connection! hitting cancel sorted it but it did it a few times.
Battery wise it did well, I had no car charger, it lasted the two 1 1/2 hour journeys with a little to spare, and I took a lot of photos when i arrived. and wasn’t quite fully charged on starting.
This show the greater detail on ovi maps vs google, plus the correct village name, here pallas green is the main location, not shown on google (browser version shown here). But look at the side road details, much greater on OVI. I suspect google will catch up, Ireland has been terrible about releasing map data.

Google maps now has free navigation in the US, so i look forward to that rolling out to europe, though I’ll need another sim :)  The main reasons I stuck the local sim in the 5800, were:
Setting wizard, sorts out all APNs
JoikuSpot lets me get data on other devices
Ovi Maps navigation

OVI Maps FTW: I took my 5800 (and nexus one) on holiday to ireland, loaded up a local PAYG O2 sim card - I got 3.5G most places, Edge elsewhere.  Data was capped at 99 cents a day, perfect for short trips. I had google maps on the 5800, installed the v4 version of google to check out the buzz layer.

My nexus one was on a uk sim so I turned off 3G and data and left it as a regular phone (the battery lasted days like that!!) and I could get data when in wifi areas.

Unfortunately I hadn’t preloaded up the new maps for ireland. But they came in no problem once I had my 3G sim in, this would be an issue if you are roaming.  So offline only use wasn’t available for me, pre planning would of sorted that out. Coverage wise the OVI maps for Ireland are way better than google. Every little road (including some that are little more than tracks) are on there, correctly named.  Google maps had some wierd naming of areas, it seemed to be using ward names rather than villages, so thumbs down to google maps of Ireland.

The voice guidance had to be download, but was quick (I did this while on the road, my wife was driving). I tried surf dude, which was amusing but highly annoying after five minutes, so switched to uk female, and added street names support too. It’s a lot like the voice from that site that turns scripts into cartoons. So I kept expecting her to ask me if I wanted a Hannah Montana Screensaver.

This was a life saver, and is so much better than the one on my VW touran, which has 5 year old data and nothing outside of the main towns and trunk roads.  It kept up well lock wise and was spot on.

The only issue I had was it kept saying too many active data connections, OVI maps was the only app running so it wanted me to close the OVI maps connection! hitting cancel sorted it but it did it a few times.

Battery wise it did well, I had no car charger, it lasted the two 1 1/2 hour journeys with a little to spare, and I took a lot of photos when i arrived. and wasn’t quite fully charged on starting.

This show the greater detail on ovi maps vs google, plus the correct village name, here pallas green is the main location, not shown on google (browser version shown here). But look at the side road details, much greater on OVI. I suspect google will catch up, Ireland has been terrible about releasing map data.

Ovi Maps and Google Maps comparision

Google maps now has free navigation in the US, so i look forward to that rolling out to europe, though I’ll need another sim :)  The main reasons I stuck the local sim in the 5800, were:

  • Setting wizard, sorts out all APNs
  • JoikuSpot lets me get data on other devices
  • Ovi Maps navigation
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Thu Jan 21
Make your 5800 a ‘navigation edition’ for free. Yes today nokia announced a new version of OVI MAPS, with free turn by turn guidance. AWESOME. And its ready to download right now, just go to app update, a nice treat while your waiting for v40 OTA.

Make your 5800 a ‘navigation edition’ for free. Yes today nokia announced a new version of OVI MAPS, with free turn by turn guidance. AWESOME. And its ready to download right now, just go to app update, a nice treat while your waiting for v40 OTA.

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Tue Dec 15
Tinned Luxury, Oh my WOMWORLD sent me a pair of these nokia BH-905 blue tooth (with wired option) noise canceling headphones to trial, and BOY they are good.  I had a pair of sony noise canceling headphones about 10 years ago, and the were a bit rubbish.  These are amazing, even without music playing a couple of seconds after you turn on the canceling - suddenly you get drawn into a silent place. apparently there’s 12 microphones built in to sample the surrounding sounds.
Music sounds great on them, I’m no audiophile but they sound really good to me, there are lots of specs that mean very little to me. Every bit of the product oozes luxury, the metal bit seem gold in some light and silver in others.  Theres leather, fabric, metal, and a twist in every direction to get the right fit. This is solid engineering, yet they are smaller than you expect, lightweight and comfortable.
There’s a range of adapters for using in ‘wired’ mode, but the freedom of bluetooth make me never want to grab them.  The carry case is quite large, and only really suitable for traveling.  I would of liked to have seen an additional soft pouch for slinging in any old bag.
I had some drop out and that weird bluetooth ‘catch up’ on the N900 when first connected, but no issues on the more mature firmware of the 5800. And of course on the 5800 they work with nokia music store purchase and spotify / last.fm mobbler.
The N900 had worse quality sound than the 5800, though I’ll need to test the same mp3 file on both to be sure.  But as the 5800 is a music focused phone it’s no surprise, as it has dedicated music decoding hardware.
They also worked a dream with my macbook pro.
My wife tried them out and I didn’t get them back for over an hour. Likewise in the office they got nabbed as soon as i put them down. Though we did have a tinny sound issue with a desktop mac pro, not sure why it was sounding very muffled, no problem with other connections so seems some sort of bluetooth compatibility issue with that mac hardware.
I made a couple of phone calls with excellent call quality. In fact it made a teleconference far less painful as i didn’t have to hold my phone for 20 minutes.
I’ve always avoided over the ear headsets before, but having tried these out i now want a pair, as they are so much better than the admittedly more convenient in-ear options.
They cost an eye popping £250, but you can get them a lot cheaper online, google shows £149 being best current price.
Click the main pic or HERE for lots of photos of the headsets.
I’d secretly love to try these baby’s with the all you can eat comes with music X6 and its capacitive screen.

Tinned Luxury, Oh my WOMWORLD sent me a pair of these nokia BH-905 blue tooth (with wired option) noise canceling headphones to trial, and BOY they are good.  I had a pair of sony noise canceling headphones about 10 years ago, and the were a bit rubbish.  These are amazing, even without music playing a couple of seconds after you turn on the canceling - suddenly you get drawn into a silent place. apparently there’s 12 microphones built in to sample the surrounding sounds.

Music sounds great on them, I’m no audiophile but they sound really good to me, there are lots of specs that mean very little to me. Every bit of the product oozes luxury, the metal bit seem gold in some light and silver in others.  Theres leather, fabric, metal, and a twist in every direction to get the right fit. This is solid engineering, yet they are smaller than you expect, lightweight and comfortable.

There’s a range of adapters for using in ‘wired’ mode, but the freedom of bluetooth make me never want to grab them.  The carry case is quite large, and only really suitable for traveling.  I would of liked to have seen an additional soft pouch for slinging in any old bag.

I had some drop out and that weird bluetooth ‘catch up’ on the N900 when first connected, but no issues on the more mature firmware of the 5800. And of course on the 5800 they work with nokia music store purchase and spotify / last.fm mobbler.

The N900 had worse quality sound than the 5800, though I’ll need to test the same mp3 file on both to be sure.  But as the 5800 is a music focused phone it’s no surprise, as it has dedicated music decoding hardware.

They also worked a dream with my macbook pro.

My wife tried them out and I didn’t get them back for over an hour. Likewise in the office they got nabbed as soon as i put them down. Though we did have a tinny sound issue with a desktop mac pro, not sure why it was sounding very muffled, no problem with other connections so seems some sort of bluetooth compatibility issue with that mac hardware.

I made a couple of phone calls with excellent call quality. In fact it made a teleconference far less painful as i didn’t have to hold my phone for 20 minutes.

I’ve always avoided over the ear headsets before, but having tried these out i now want a pair, as they are so much better than the admittedly more convenient in-ear options.

They cost an eye popping £250, but you can get them a lot cheaper online, google shows £149 being best current price.

Click the main pic or HERE for lots of photos of the headsets.

I’d secretly love to try these baby’s with the all you can eat comes with music X6 and its capacitive screen.

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Mon Dec 14
Spotify has a nice audio player than the built in S60 app, nice big album at at last, with added notes.  last.fm mobbler is equally nice.  Come on nokia, its the express music - lets make the music player a bit more 2000’s and less last century.
Also spotity on S60 has two killers over the iPhone version:
Syncing offline playlists on 3G
it runs in the background

Spotify has a nice audio player than the built in S60 app, nice big album at at last, with added notes.  last.fm mobbler is equally nice.  Come on nokia, its the express music - lets make the music player a bit more 2000’s and less last century.

Also spotity on S60 has two killers over the iPhone version:

  • Syncing offline playlists on 3G
  • it runs in the background
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UPDATING/Betas :)

maps 3.1 and messenging 10.1 currently winging their way on to my 5800 via app update, and the bera of communities is out - so a new twitter option :) more later.

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